May 292013
 

 

67516_450467225039416_1029183902_nThis edition of Loose Ends is brought to you by ANVL

That’s Trey’s skateboard sponsor and my favorite shirt. 🙂

 

 

 

On the right hand sidebar we have a new poll…vote on whether the new moderation is working for you.

So far the only problem is I go to bed early…

I managed to pull in some of the old archives to this site, although I’m missing 2011 for some reason.

Now, the PhxP Bookstore and all my links on Mexico are back.

There are good arguments against Calvinism…and pretty lame ones. If you want to know what a good one looks like check out Bill Kinnon on Scott McKnights paper.

While you’re there, check out Kinnon’s writings on discipleship and tell him to put a book out.

Great classes here…go learn something.

Matt Redmond on not understanding the Scriptures…once again, I wish I’d written this.

Frank Viola asked me to check out this page….and I’m glad I did. A fresh perspective on Christian singleness.

 

That is all…

 

  21 Responses to “Loose Ends”

  1. a great site on christian singless is http://singleness.org/

    helped me immensly when developing contentment “in any state”, married or single.

    two quotes:
    “All are single for Some time, but Some are single for All time” -Elizabeth Elliott
    “Michael, it’s better to BE single than to Wish you were” -Jack, an elder at one of the CCs I used to attend…

    wisdom from God
    -MIC

  2. I do love the peacefulness of moderating. But not the need for it.

  3. Will I become a calvinist if I take those classes? 😉

  4. No, but you’ll want to. 🙂

  5. I’m happy you are experiencing some reprieve via your moderating experiment. However, I still think it’s unfortunate that the lack of self control and online decorum by a small number of individuals on this site has led to someone else having to review what I write and determine whether or not it’s fit for public consumption on this blog.

    Peace to you.

  6. thanks for the warning 🙂

  7. I bet I know who the “NO!” voters are. nyuk nyuk The test of moderation will be the first controversial topic.

  8. Thanks for the learning links

  9. Just one thought about the moderation thing. Why not allow free discussion until one merits moderating and afterward they are moderated individually? Or is the technology not able to do that?

    Probably not

  10. As to the moderation; its your blog. Do what works for you.

  11. Something about singleness from the local faith community I first was involved in, being single for a long period of time was equated with being gay or a pervert, or both. I know I was looked at as gay several times because I did not put the move on some of the single girls, when I did, I E ask out for lunch they panicked and at times the elders became involved. Basically girls and guys should not be involved until God called them, even then there was some type of perversion involved and one needs to keep close tabs. Being the spiritually unregenerate person I am I lived a celibate life and refrained from much involvement as I was usually helping out with some “fringe” group I e homeless, disabled, the elderly etc. Once in a great while I actually liked a women in the circle I was involved in, at times this seemed equivalent to wanting to have sex. Of course that is stupid, a point I often try to make, but being a heretic I lack spiritual discernment. Of course I want to have sex with every single girl I see times ten to the two thousands power. I dont but I need to get the memo and move on with my apostasy.

    My point as a faith we are really screwed up about relationships the world handles them far better then we do, actually we dont handle them what so ever. We write books, have seminars and public twaddle but we do not handle relationships outside of the apologetic. We are cursed if we are alone but we have it coming and should be willing to be alone before we commit the sin of needing. Yes needing is a sin, it shows weakness, and vulnerability, two things God seems to hate in my personal limited experience, but He also demands. I limit this to my personal on and off line experience but it seems consistent with what I have read on other blogs being single is wrong and right at the same time. Of course that should not drive you crazy but it does.

    I remember when it was just nice to ask someone out for lunch just to get to know them, and they did not view you as trying to have sex with them or in some other strange way take advantage. Lacking the spiritual insight I never looked at personal relationships that way. Most likely I need to repent.

  12. Actually, if anyone is interested or might assume otherwise, I voted ‘yes’ on the moderated thing.
    -mic

  13. Michael, thank you for the moderation and agree with Dread @2. I couldn’t take the shrillness and opted to not participate for awhile.

    From Passing By @5 “it’s unfortunate that the lack of self control and online decorum by a small number of individuals on this site has led to someone else having to review what I write and determine whether or not it’s fit for public consumption on this blog.”

    A cogent point which is true for any ill of society, unfortunately.

  14. brian,
    “My point as a faith we are really screwed up about relationships the world handles them far better then we”

    I don’t know – when I look around at “the world” I see relationships being handled at bars, strip joints, whore houses, along the streets through prostitution and personal computers full of porn..

    Now, your church associations may be poor handlers of “relationships” but don’t ever say “the world” does it better.

  15. I don’t like the moderation as it seems to stifle actual discussion. I will also fully admit that I am one of the reasons moderation was needed, so I apologize to everyone for my lack of self-control.

    Kinnon’s / Mckinght’s position seems to be less against Calvinism in general, and more against “meticulous sovereignty”. It does seem that this bit of theology has proven to be quite damaging, in terms of guys like Piper responding to disaster.

    Redmond did well. We must always remind ourselves of the innerancy of Scripture, while keeping fully in mind how flawed our understanding of Scripture can be.

  16. Brian,
    You sound like a cultural heretic. I may be one too. I was celibate for 3 and a half years after I started following Jesus. I knew if I dated I’d end up in the sack. One of my church friends was gay. He had questions so we would talk. Most or all of my church friends thought I was gay. More later if I have time.

  17. If moderation makes things easier for Michael & the mods…I’m all for it.

  18. London and Michael, your #’s 3, 4 and 6. 🙂

    Thanks for the link to Biblical Training. Daniel Fusco mentioned that to me a while back, but I couldn’t remember the name and didn’t have time to research it. They have some great stuff, including a hermeneutics class by Mark Strauss. I took an abbreviated version of that class from him at Bethel when we lived in San Diego. It’s cool to have access to the transcripts from the entire course, and so many others.

    Dang it, Michael, you just about doubled my reading list! 😉

  19. “Now, your church associations may be poor handlers of “relationships” but don’t ever say “the world” does it better.”

    In my personal experience and I my local real world experience the world always was better, in every single way hands down. I received grace from Atheist and non theist and new age types far more then my personal experience of those in the faith. Since that is all I really have to go on, and it is limited, if I had a choice I would always, hands down (other then this blog) choose the world.

  20. Brian,
    I hate to hear that but I believe you. There’s a lot more self righteousness in moral circles than regular folks.

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