Oct 262013
 

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  1. Going to my first Oregon Duck’s game in like four years. It will be fun because I will be with one of my sons, it’s not supposed to rain and the Ducks will WIN!

    It’s pretty cool how things seem to be coming full circle after these last four years. A sense of normalcy and routine is coming back after what had been a very trying period in our lives.

    As I previously noted, I’ve been training and working in an office environment for the past three months. I’m gone during the week and come home on the weekends.

    We had originally expected for me to become a manager of an office 70 miles away from where we live by the end of the year. Needless to say my wife wasn’t too excited about the prospect of moving. However, my boss informed me a couple of weeks ago that they are setting up an office for me right in my own home town!

    Full circle in 4 years! A friend said to, “at least it wasn’t 40 years.” I guess God gave me the abbreviated version of around the mountain 😉

  2. 1. Driscoll and MacArthur deserve each other

    2. Don’t have a problem with pastors making good money…but don’t hide it from your people or shelter it under some phony trust or make believe non-profit

    3. Yes pastoring is hard (believe me I know) but please quit telling everyone that you have the hardest job in the world

    4. When pastors say that their church would be better off if someone else pastored it, it comes across really disingenuous

    5. Really happy to be taking a break from pastoring…what’s hard is that no one seems to miss me or care

  3. Recovering Pastor, good words above, very true IMO.

    You said, “what’s hard is that no one seems to miss me or care”

    Actually, I think that’s a sign you were actually probably serving. It seems the ones who are missed, in the very public expression sense, are the Celebrities who were more Idols than pastors.

  4. ….except that I do think it’s a contradiction for a pastor to make a lot of money.

  5. Jim, I read that article last yesterday. What blows my mind is how much the taxpayers paid and will continue to pay to fix that stupid website.

  6. RB – @4 Very interesting thought…I hope you’re right.

    RB – @5 I understand your point…don’t think it’s right for pastors to be paid peanuts and struggle either.

  7. “don’t think it’s right for pastors to be paid peanuts and struggle either.”

    Agreed. There’s a balance.

  8. Scott, you are the American dream.

    You encountered adversity, and you took responsibility, with patience, hard work, perseverance, and faith. Without unduly burdening the taxpayers of the future. Good for you.

  9. Wow, Scott! That is wonderful. Thanking God with you!

  10. Scott, such fantastic news!

  11. Recovering Pastor, agreeing with you on all 5 points.

  12. Music is up for the week with all new songs and I posted a beautiful one that Xenia shared yesterday. Feel free to drop by.

    http://morethancoping.wordpress.com/2013/10/25/praise-worship-october-25th-2013/

  13. Scott, You embody everything Rush Limbaugh speaks of!! :mrgreen: I’ve read here of your journey, where you’ve been and where you are, and I am genuinely happy for you.

  14. Thanks. I’m not that much of a self-made man, really.

    In the beginning of our situation a few years ago we did receive help with food stamp (card) assistance.

    I remember how ashamed I felt at the human resource department. Then I recalled how many tens of thousands of dollars I had contributed in taxes over 30 years and didn’t feel nearly as bad 😉 We used them for a few months and once I was drawing a paycheck I cut the cord even though we still qualified for assistance.

    In addition, I received a generous $5,000 grant which paid for my truck school tuition. For which I’m very thankful.

  15. Personally, I agree with that approach exactly. Accept what you qualify for, but do not let that deter you from fighting to stand on your own two feet.

  16. MIchael,
    That book “Fight” by Preston Sprinkle that you recommended is free for a couple of weeks.
    Here is the link if anyone is interested.
    http://bookshout.com/co/fight?code=fight-ps

  17. Thank you, Derek.
    I’ll post that in many places. 🙂

  18. I’ve been waiting for open blogging for an opportunity to re-engage with the CCCM pastor(s) here. Michael, I posted a question for Dave Rolph which you held in moderation and it never got posted. Here it is, amended:

    Dave,
    Could you address something that is germane to me? In your post #96 to Ricky Bobby, (on another thread of about a week ago) part of what you said was “The often-mentioned two weeks was because I was in Alaska, and nothing could start before I returned. The day I returned, you ran the byline, “Dave Rolph And Chuck Smith Are Liars.” That made it impossible for me to continue to push for resolution. My key witness had gone off the rails. I still wonder what could have happened had you exercised some patience and restraint.”

    I don’t know the details of that, and I’m most definitely NOT defending Ricky Bobby (in fact I don’t read most of his posts on Michael’s blogs) but how did his going off the rails affect your doing what was right? You see, I don’t know how much patience and /or restraint I have regarding a situation I’ve been trying to deal with since 1990.

    I accidently posted someone’s e mail address and I’m very sorry for that. I didn’t understand about spam bots and the like.

  19. Why is my comment in moderation again?

  20. Arrived in Minneapolis with the kids this afternoon to watch the Viking-Packer game tomorrow. Kids first time flying, its about 40 degrees here during the day but were handling just fine for Cali folk. You might see me on tv tommorow wearing a Pink lucha mask

  21. Design
    Robert Frost
    I found a dimpled spider, fat and white,
    On a white heal-all, holding up a moth
    Like a white piece of rigid satin cloth —
    Assorted characters of death and blight
    Mixed ready to begin the morning right,
    Like the ingredients of a witches’ broth —
    A snow-drop spider, a flower like a froth,
    And dead wings carried like a paper kite.

    What had that flower to do with being white,
    The wayside blue and innocent heal-all?
    What brought the kindred spider to that height,
    Then steered the white moth thither in the night?
    What but design of darkness to appall?–
    If design govern in a thing so small.

  22. and what design doth the writer’s quill
    happen with ink, small letters to spill?

  23. Hi Gary. “Doing what was right” in that situation was complicated, and to do what was right, in the right way, involved trying to get some people together. The lack of restraint made that virtually impossible. Some other alleged victims declined involvement so I felt like I ran up against a wall. And frankly, the whole thing just wore me out personally. I totally understood Alex’s frustration. I just didn’t see how I could bring healing to the situation.

  24. Dave!! Can I talk to you (via e mail) about my situation?

  25. Sure Gary! daverolph@calvarychapel.com. Might take a couple days, with tomorrow being Sunday.

  26. Big day tomorrow. Thanks.

  27. Hey Gary I’ll take the silver chair and chuckled at

    “and what design doth the writer’s quill
    happen with ink, small letters to spill?”

    Frost your not but that’s ok neither am I. Hope you have a nice evening.

  28. Might as well keep the Obamacare debacle discussion going. It’s probable that most of you who supported, believe in and possibly voted for Obama because of this one issue alone might not even click on and watch this 8 minute clip, I hope you do though.

    Scroll to the bottom and watch the clip.

    http://downtrend.com/brian-carey/one-of-our-favorite-liberals-kirsten-powers-has-her-health-insurance-cancelled-because-of-obamacare/

  29. If anyone wants to define what a liberal is, I’m all ears. From what I hear them say, I can only assume that they believe in a big federal govt that has the mandate and ability to improve people’s lives in every way. Only the most honest will admit that the welfare state has hurt those it was supposedly created to help.

    The ACA is no more than an expansion of a failed ( or successful, depending on your view) strategy. More people have had their current insurance cancelled than have enrolled on the website, and the majority of those enrolled have enrolled in medicaid.

    Until things get really bad, I have no hope that our nation will wake up. Hillary 2016!

  30. I read this today and I hope it will encourage someone else here:

    “Forgiving the Church

    When we have been wounded by the Church, our temptation is to reject it. But when we reject the Church it becomes very hard for us to keep in touch with the living Christ. When we say, “I love Jesus, but I hate the Church,” we end up losing not only the Church but Jesus too. The challenge is to forgive the Church. This challenge is especially great because the Church seldom asks us for forgiveness, at least not officially. But the Church as an often fallible human organization needs our forgiveness, while the Church as the living Christ among us continues to offer us forgiveness.

    It is important to think about the Church not as “over there” but as a community of struggling, weak people of whom we are part and in whom we meet our Lord and Redeemer.” Henri Nouwen

  31. Dave said, ““Doing what was right” in that situation was complicated, and to do what was right, in the right way, involved trying to get some people together. The lack of restraint made that virtually impossible. Some other alleged victims declined involvement so I felt like I ran up against a wall. And frankly, the whole thing just wore me out personally. I totally understood Alex’s frustration. I just didn’t see how I could bring healing to the situation.”

    It was only complicated if the goal was more political and business-like in nature. If the goal was ‘do the right thing and let the chips fall where they may’ as it seems part of the biblical narrative expresses in many situations…then it wasn’t complicated at all.

  32. Gary, if you are truly seeking help with a CC matter…working through Rolph and previously CCOF and now CC Association etc is a dead-end…and strategically so. Don’t be fooled. But, if you decide to waste your time and hand over your information etc, knock yourself out, at least you were warned.

  33. Nonnie,
    The problem may be the “Church”. There are many false churches. There are many true believers in those false churches. Is it the people or the doctrine that makes a “Church”? There is a verse that says a liar won’t be believed even when he tells the truth. There are pastors I trust who occasionally say the wrong thing and there are false teachers and pastors who often say something true. Walter Martin said that the best lies contain 94% truth.

    What I’m trying to say is that the “Church” doesn’t equal the body of Christ. They overlap but they’re not synonymous. I’m not talking about judging or condemning motives of the heart. I’m talking about words. I was going to say words and deeds but not even deeds, just words.

    I haven’t been hurt by the “Church” or by the body of Christ. It’s just been a believer here and there. So I have to deal with this on a personal level. I have to forgive people. I don’t reject them. Even pastors. They aren’t the “Church”. I have to deal with them personally, and I have.

    On the other hand I have a brother who was rejected by his church. He was taken advantage of by the pastor and by some other leaders. I tried to get him out before it happened but he wouldn’t hear it. Who is to blame?

  34. Ricky Bobby,
    It’s not exactly a CC matter and you might recall I’ve been alluding to this here and there for a while. It’s a personal matter that indirectly involves CCCM. I’m seeking a CCCM pastor or leader to help because the scope of the problem determines the scope of the resolution.

  35. It’s not exactly a CC matter and you might recall I’ve been alluding to this here and there for a while. It’s a personal matter that indirectly involves CCCM. I’m seeking a CCCM pastor or leader to help because the scope of the problem determines the scope of the resolution.

    ps I think I figured out why some of my posts get moderated. I mention names. They may be real or ficticious names.

  36. Mr moderator, you can delete that double post. This one too.

  37. Nonnie @31…thank you for sharing that! It spoke to my heart today…

  38. Linnea, I’m glad. Blessings to you, my friend.

  39. Put in a paper or phone application for Obamacare and….wait for it.

    That is right, still won’t work right, because they still have to input the data into the healthcare.gov website and they have no magic way of getting entrance any better than the average joe.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/obamacare-glitches-paper-phone-applications-98872.html?fb_action_ids=10200245430853163&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_ref=.UmwiIEFzVAR.like&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582

    I put this up on FB last night, cause I was sitting there thinking about it.

    With all the problems in the Obamacare website, it has become glaringly obvious that whoever built it was grossly incompetent.

    Seeing that they couldn’t even build a website to function, can Americans really trust it to keep their confidential information confidential?

    This seems to me like a ready made site for identity theft.

    If anyone could get onto the ACA website, I bet the hackers will find that way.

  40. Michael,
    were you aware Carlos P is starting another church in my town? Took out a large ad in a local paper announcing it. Distressing news.

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