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  1. Nonnie says:

    Just ordered Eric’s book!

  2. Michael says:

    Thank you, Nonnie!

  3. Babylon's Dread says:

    The hair splitting article about Noah and Brown’s parsing of Driscoll is just so much chatter. It really just seems to be Driscoll’s mild calvinism bumping chests with Brown’s desire to push back on Driscoll types. “Driscoll Was Wrong About Noah” seems to be a journalistic trick with not much substance other than an intramural hermeneutics contest.

  4. Babylon's Dread says:

    Red Letter-ism is going to be a movement. I say let them have their slice. There will be no use arguing with them. The sooner they build their own ism, the sooner they will be exposed as just another promise of more for less. This is free-market religion on steroids.

    I expect a Johannine split soon.

  5. Babylon's Dread says:

    I am sorry, who are suppose to be influenced by these influencers? Is this a test of marketability or impact?

  6. EricL says:

    Michael, thanks for the mention and Nonnie, thanks for the purchase. I hope you like it. (MIchael I sent you a couple of emails but they may have fallen into your spam bucket- the curse of having Yahoo host my site’s email service)

    I agree with BD on the Red Letter posting. Frankly, it feels like another version of the Emergent Church stuff of a few years back. Some just want to help God by starting the burial of evangelism for Him- even if the corpse might still be moving a bit. 🙂

  7. EricL says:

    Umm, evangelism= evangelicalism

  8. Babylon's Dread says:

    Sexual abuse and the connection to same sex attraction is the bogeyman that every pastor, counselor, and sexual orientation struggler KNOW must be addressed.

    Those who argue for normalizing same sex relations by same sex marriage laws will be the enemies of this conversation. They do not want it discussed. They want sexual orientation to be seen as being predetermined by genetics or unknown causation.

    I would argue that prepubescent sexual experiences are the most significant catalyst to gender confusion. The more skillfully the sexual experience was performed the more confusing. When children are given pleasure in sexual encounters they will grow up confused about sex and their attractions will be confused. Furthermore, sex messes with brain function and chemical compulsive reactions in the brain are released.

    The people who mess with kids are the people who are responsible for the bulk of sexual orientation confusion. We seldom stop them. We then have an abundance of confused adolescents who are trying to ‘discover’ who they are. Their volitional experimentation furthers the disorienting confusion.

    Normalizing gay relations by marriage is going to create a supporting culture that vastly increases the participation in experimental sex by consenting teens. Can you see where this is going?

    In 25 years we will hear about a considerable uptick in the percentage of the population that self-identify as other than heterosexual. When we do there will be a rash of literature to tell us that it was ALWAYS that way but the numbers were suppressed by religion. Glad I won’t live to see it.

    Dead Soon Dread

  9. Nonnie says:

    I remember over 30+ years ago Dr. Dobson stating something to the effect that in all his experience, reading and research, he had never known of a homosexual who had not been molested or “seduced” as a young boy. I’ve tried to find the quote online but so far have not found it. Has anyone else heard this?

    When I read Jonathan’s article, my broke and I thought about the above statement.

    I’m guess that kind of information is not even compiled anymore and would not be considered as “relevant.”

  10. Michael says:

    EricL,

    It’s just been a hellacious couple of days…I’ve got them and I’ll respond ASAP.

  11. Michael says:

    Back in the early days of the PHXP we had our first “red letter guy”.
    His monicker was “Vet” and I miss him…simply a very good fellow.
    If folks want to try to live by all the red letters I wish them luck…when I read them I get very grateful for Paul’s explanation of them…

  12. Michael says:

    While I find the “red letter only’ stuff completely untenable, the people that hold to it tend to be very sensitive to the pain of the world and have a very great desire to emphasize the love and grace of God.
    I have a hard time getting real upset with them…though I will debate how sound the theological construct is.

  13. Paige says:

    Speaking of losing one’s faith from reading the Bible….. I am now 5 OT books and 4 NT books into my ‘read thru in a year’ schedule. The Law came through Moses but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. What I am ‘losing’ is my self description of being a Bible literalist or someone who lives ‘Biblically”. Frankly I am not. I didn’t kill my teenagers when they were rebellious. I wasn’t killed for not being a virgin when I got married. I haven’t been killed (yet) for working on Saturday/Sabbath…. further more, I wear ‘men’s’ clothes (jeans and tshirts)…. thus, I am seriously guilty of not keeping the Law.
    I like cheese on hamburgers too.
    Go ahead, stone me.

    I believe the term I have been searching for is “interpretive dualism”….when I hear ‘oh that was for ‘back then’ but this is for now”. Who the heck decides? I rather like the idea of a ‘tithe’ being a huge BarBQ with the priest/pastor. What I only seem to hear is ‘give us your money”…. cash, checks or credit cards, on the gross, not the net.

    Reading the Bible so far has launched many question in my mind and in my prayers… and lots of grief over how I have heretofore believed and lived.

    The Red Letters need the OT to give context and contrast. “You have heard it was said xyz…” “But I say to you …abc” …

    I am more grateful than ever for Grace (and truth) . “Within me there is no good thing”, Romans 7:18.

    Love God and your neighbor as yourself, upon these two commandments rest all the Law and Prophets…. W O W

  14. The OT was for the nation Israel only. There is not a thing in the OT that we today need to observe just because it is in the OT – you could lead a perfectly good Christian life and never know what is the OT.

    When Nebuchadnezzar got saved in Daniel, did he somehow fall under Jewish law – did he suddenly go kosher?

  15. Paige says:

    MLD, we’d have to stop reading the 23rd Psalm at funerals.

  16. We could read resurrection verses instead. 🙂

  17. Paige says:

    Only if the deceased was saved. 🙂

  18. If they were lost why read from the Bible – if it’s for the audience, let’s give them resurrection hope. 🙂

  19. Now, I do teach out of the OT, but never to re enforce law onto people, but to show people Jesus in the OT.

  20. erunner says:

    Via the new CC website I heard John MacArthur talk about the responses to his strange fire conference. Really saddened that he has taken such a strong stance against the gifts of the spirit and intends to continue even stronger on that path.

    I have concerns as many do concerning the abuse of the gifts but he’s really holding nothing back.

    This would be another example of Christians devouring one another that troubles me so much. I will next listen to Brian Broderson’s response.

  21. The Denny Burk article is good.

  22. BD’s #8 is the comment that homosexuals and homosexual advocates don’t ever want to address.

  23. I actually shudder to think of all the people waiting to be hurt by the consequences.

  24. Larry says:

    Regarding “Twenty of the most influential evangelicals:” first of all, if they’re so influential, how come I’d never heard of several of them until I read that list? Second, how did T.D. Jakes, Joyce Meyer and Joel Osteen make that list?

  25. “Second, how did T.D. Jakes, Joyce Meyer and Joel Osteen make that list?”

    Evangelicalism is a big tent group – evangelicalism is style not substance.

  26. Ixtlan says:

    “Evangelicalism is a big tent group – evangelicalism is style not substance.”

    That depends on who you ask. But yes, too much about style and a severe lack of substance.

  27. erunner says:

    With all of the talk about the Noah movie I’m wondering if anyone has seen the video Ray Comfort has made on the topic?? http://www.noahthemovie.com/

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