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So…I’ve received numerous emails, texts, and complicated smoke signals asking what this interview was all about.

First, let me assure you that I’m not consulted by the Harvest organization when they are planning the event… thus, all I have is my jaded opinion to offer.

Evangelicals love celebrities and have always lusted after the approval of the famous.

I consider this a small step up from the days when the most prominent Christian celebrities were Pat Boone and the captain of the Love Boat.

Boone made his place in the world sanitizing great rock and roll songs into whitened mush, (though he failed to hit in later years with a remake of “Smoke On the Water”).

There is a God.

Gibson made his mark with a heavily “Catholicized” version of the crucifixion.

He’s famous for that…and for a host of unsavory actions and attitudes that I will not chronicle.

He’s famous.

That explains it to me.

Make your own application…

 

  51 Responses to “Greg Laurie Interviews Mel Gibson”

  1. “Gibson made his mark with a heavily “Catholicized” version of the crucifixion.”

    Michael,
    I haven’t watched the movie, because I don’t want a dramatization to color the drama of Scripture for me. Also, Gibson has been notorious outside this movie.

    However, I’ve never heard a critique that the movie is “heavily ‘Catholicized'”. Is that dog whistle language? I didn’t know the Catholics view the crucifixion differently than conservative Protestants. Would you mind giving an example or two of Gibson’s Catholicization of the crucifixion?

  2. I am a bit bewildered why everyone asks this. Was this any different than the interview a couple of years ago with the duck guy or when Rick Warren made an appearance?

    now it did look a bit like Gibson was twitching and swatting away evil spirits during the interview. (personally I like Mel Gibson and his movies – although I never did see the Passion)

    Actually, I would like to see them interview Rosey Grier

  3. The film was actually based on “The Dolorous Passion of Anne Catherine Emmerich” a Catholic mystic.

    The Veronica legend and the place of Mary are big in the narrative…I could go on…

  4. Well, Gibson is a Catholic, so I don’t know why it wouldn’t be a Catholic version. I guess the question is – why did evangelicals rush in hoardes to go see a Catholic movie?

  5. Man crush!

  6. I enjoyed The Passion of the Christ, but Gibson played the evangelical card to help make himself millions.

  7. Yeah, but Mel Gibson has previously spewed anti-Semitic hatred and now Greg Laurie is interviewing him at his crusade which means the next crusade is going to get wiped out by an earthquake because he’s giving his platform to an anti-Israel Jew hater.

    Wait, I think I’m getting my threads all jumbled up. 🙂

  8. I was concerned because of Mel’s past anti semitic remarks as well of the big mess with his old girl friend. Hearing those tapes was downright scary. He has a 25 year old girl friend currently which I guess goes with the territory.

  9. Gibson is a drunken anti-Semite.

    What makes me angry is the unspoken requirement that in order to be a Christian, we also have to be morons, idiots and uniformed. That our brains need to be checked at the door. (mine is over next to the lost and found)

    Christians flocked to the Passion of the Christ because we are morons and uninformed. Of course the film would be called “Passion” because it is a “passion play.” But because we are morons we don’t understand why it carries that name.

    A passion play dates from the middle ages and is associated with rioting, rape, murder and looting. It is inherently anti-Semite, and can’t be divorced from it’s history.

    To put it mildly..
    ..”Passion plays also figure in the history of antisemitism, as they placed blame squarely on the Jews for the death of Jesus. Some believe the plays resulted in a rise in anti-Jewish violence following performances.”..
    http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Passion_play

    Speaking of “crusades.” Crusades had only one purpose. Killing. The crusaders could not even makes it out of Europe before the killing, raping, rioting and looting began. What took place in Jerusalem was a neco-gasim.

    I would never use ether imagery as a believer.

  10. He looks good in a kilt.

  11. Xenia wins this thread. 🙂

  12. Mel Gibson reminds me of Samson.
    Tries to follow God’s leading, but is overcome at times by his own passions.

    Does that make him a Christian reject or a Romans 7 man?

  13. Xenia. Hahahahaahaaha

  14. “He’s famous. That explains it to me.”

    Nail meet head.

    I had one of my friends post his pic during the Crusade with the text “Mel Gibson is here!! Pray for him!!”

    Funny she didn’t post pics of others there to pray for…just this celebrity.

    We love our celebrities, especially Christian ones….

  15. Paps – why did she think he needed prayer?

  16. MLD, She didn’t say.

  17. Probably because he is Catholic.

  18. Watched the video.

    That’s what qualifies as a crusade nowadays? Wow.

    Also, Greg is morphing into Chuck Smith (physically).

  19. The key to this, in my mind, is Greg saying “when we were talking backstage”. It’s a stage… entertainment… celebrity culture…

    If we choose to live by celebrity culture, we will also die with celebrity culture…

  20. Non issue in my book.

    I’m more concerned by the fact that Greg Laurie Incorporated has amassed a Multi-million dollar Fortune from selling the Gospel of Jesus as his only product.

    That disgusts me and is telling of Greg’s heart and character. He sucks for that reason alone.

    Greg has gotten rich by poaching “backsliders” from other churches. What a stupid worthless life and “ministry” when he could’ve used that Power and money and influence to really help people in real need.

    Greg Laurie is a wasted life. He was given a Talent and he gave God back the keys to a Porsche.

  21. I agree with a lot that is said about Greg, but I still think he does a good work. Now, I think the role of the Crusades have changed over the years because of the internet. In days of old, Billy Graham times, people didn’t know how to effectively witness etc.- so you brought them to the tent meeting, to see the evangelist to hear a pro do it.

    Today I don’t think that is the purpose – I think most of us at the least share the gospel because we have seen it modeled, or we give tapes to our unsaved friends etc. The role of the crusade and a guy like Greg? He is the closer.

  22. Al,
    “from selling the Gospel of Jesus as his only product.” I doubt he charged anything for the Harvest Crusade this weekend.

    “Greg has gotten rich by poaching “backsliders” from other churches.” I think most ‘backsliders’ are skeptical to give their money to a stranger like Greg – so he must first earn their trust. Again, I think it is a good work if he works with ‘backsliders’ when no one else will.

    My question isn’t about Greg – it’s why 100,000 Christians came out to an event that was designated for non believers. I don’t think they should let anyone in if you did not bring an unsaved friend. The ‘christians’ are showing up for a night of entertainment.

  23. Wow…. I guess I don’t understand the point of the post…. I know there is a collective dislike for Greg Laurie and his machine. Fair enough. But why hating on Mel?
    I get that people don’t like The Passion. I thought it was cool, and moving and pretty great. But I am not a deep thinker, nor do I dissect movies to look for hidden meanings and agendas. I just like movies. But I don’t think this is where he made his mark…. he is in so many great movies, and I like to remember those, over his crazy homeless guy impressions…. Signs….. Best.Alien.Movie.Ever!!!!! And he IS Mad Max. Martin Riggs and Hamlet and Bret Maverick (horrible movie, but he was good)….. So, why the angst? ANd Xenia is very right, but most any man looks great in a kilt. Will you hate on Denzel too, if he were to be interviewed? Or Jim Caviezel or any other actor who says they are a christian? Its not why I go to movies…. IDK, I guess I am missing something. If I got this totally wrong, you can delete this.

  24. The original point of the post would be to pose the question “what the hell does interviewing a movie star have to do with evangelism”.

    As to “hating” on Gibson…some folks don’t like anti-Semitic drunks who abuse women.
    But, he does say he is a Christian…

    I don’t give a hoot in hell what faith people claim in regard to their vocation.
    I only care that they do their vocation well if I am buying a product or service from them.

  25. Pilate interviewed Jesus and won all kinds of converts.
    Interviewing celebs is good business, effective politics and great theatre.

  26. Actually, I need to amend my #24…if a trade or vendor has a fish symbol on their business card it’s a pretty good sign you should run like hell.
    That has been my experience…your mileage may vary…

  27. Mr. Fuji died. I could care less about Greg Laurie and Mel Gibson. Neither one of those guys was a great wrassler.

  28. Well played, Sheck…. 🙂

  29. Besides this and the Kaepernick stuff distracts from the real important news. What about Tebow’s baseball tryout yesterday?

    Actually it would be cool if he did make it – Kind of a The Natural remake in real life.

  30. Yes, he could stencil John 3:16 under his eyes again. I miss that.

  31. Is a christian drunk more righteous than an anti semitic drunk?

  32. If a Christian has other prejudices, but doesnt have an anti semitic prejudice. Is he more righteous? Can a professing christian who goes into anti semitic rage under drunken state in privacy of his own home perhaps as guilty as another professing Christian who gets drunk and rages against black people or watches pornography?

  33. Those are weird questions.
    Righteousness is declared by God on the basis of the actions of Jesus Christ, not the sinner.
    Loud drunks are always obnoxious.

  34. My question would be is did Mel ever confess/repent for the things he said about Jews and all of the stuff between him and his girl friend? If he has repented it would be important for people to know.

    There’s been a huge backlash that a Catholic even appeared with Greg. I think that was a given no matter who that Catholic might have been. Maybe those same people have forgotten that Pastor Chuck and Rick Warren sat together at a past crusade. I remember that driving people to drink!

    I also wonder how many who are followers of Ray Comfort justify crusade evangelism based on what Ray has taught through the years?

    It gets a bit convoluted at times trying to make sense of it all.

  35. Michael mentions the questions are weird and this is correct. They do not address the underlying issue that some such as myself have with Mr. Gibson, and why I specifically mentioned drunkenness.

    Let’s start with here:
    -Gibson presents a movie to Christians that has an image of piety and devotion.
    -Christians patronize the film and hand over an enormous amount of funds.
    -Christians promote the movie to each other as spiritually beneficial.
    -No explanation is given about the historical background of passion plays, or that the Church is historically anti-Semite. Christian leaders do not educate there congregations in general and Church history is not different.

    In summary. Mr.Gibson did not disclose his true feelings to the Christian community, but alcohol did. (see Gibson arrest transcript below)

    ……”Gibson’s belligerent attitude (unreadable). Gibson (unreadable) out profanities (unreadable), calling me, “You mother (profanity redacted).” Gibson repeatedly threatened me, saying, “I’m going to (profanity redacted) you. You’re going to regret you ever did this to me.”

    While en route to Lost Hills Sheriff’s (unreadable), Gibson’s conduct remained (unreadable). Gibson almost continually threatened me, saying he “owns Malibu” and will spend all his money to “get even” with me. Gibson blurted out a barrage of anti-Semitic remarks about “(profanity redacted) Jews.” Gibson yelled out, “The Jews are responsible for all the wars in! the world.” Gibson then asked, “Are you a Jew?”………..

  36. Honestly, watching this clip, my first thought was “cocaine is a hell of a drug”. Gibson’s mannerisms seemed…really weird. Ok, I might just be a total jerk (actually, I know I am), but something seems off.

  37. MLD said, “The ‘christians’ are showing up for a night of entertainment.”

    Yup, that is the troof.

  38. Michael said, ““what the hell does interviewing a movie star have to do with evangelism”.

    Not much. I’d interview Mel Gibson for the same reason Greg Laurie did, b/c he’s a big shot movie star and would be lots of eyeballs on my youtube channel. I’d hope to find something interesting to hash out politically or philosophically, but Gibson doesn’t seem too bright so I’d probably just get him to yell “Freeeeeeddddommmmmm!” or something.

  39. gomergirl, I liked Mel Gibson as an actor until I heard the recording of his obscene tirade against his girlfriend of the time, mother of his child. It was disgusting. As much as I love “Braveheart”, his abuse was so far over any line of decency, I cecided I would never watch another of his movies. That’s my reason for my dislike of him.

  40. Old Mel is going for a repeat with his part two movie: “The Ressurection.”

    The recent movie that I saw was “Risen.”

    Now that was a great movie!

    If you have not seen it yet, your in for a real treat.

    One scene in particular was spectacular in that it so plainly demonstrated Jesus love.

    And be assured it has none of Mel’s violence angles at all.

    You know, where the viewer sees Jesus beaten etc.

    I don’t know who produced Risen but they nailed it.

  41. And just to add to my last comment, I find it embarrassing, challenging, telling that non believers are often able to clearly discern evil behavior much quicker than Christians — Mel and Josh Duggar (and let’s not forget Trump) come to mind. We Evangelicals make things way too complicated and fuzzy.

  42. Tracey,

    Amen to your #41…

  43. Michael, is it not ironic that Christians are the moral relativists?

  44. Tracey,

    That’s what happens when you sell out to the religion of politics and corporate churches.
    Pragmatism and the bottom line become the plumb lines…

  45. Why Mr. Gibson was in this interview and it was for the holiest of reasons his movie grossed $612 million in its first worldwide release and only 30 million in production costs and around 15 million in post-production distribution and marketing costs. He did much of that free using churches and the evangelical machine, that too is holy and should be rewarded. Others have mentioned that the film was heavily based on Anne Catherine Emmerich’s psychotic anti-Semitic rantings which also had a well I won’t do down that road. The Passion plays of medieval Europe and their effect on people of the Jewish faith was mentioned. I saw the movie several times to try to do Mr. Gibson’s few justice, I always wondered why the scriptures, and I understand they take a backseat if not booted out of the car when it comes to production issues but they are not “graphic” concerning the crucifixion of Jesus. The bible is very graphic in other areas such as Judges nineteen or God seeking to kill Moses in Exodus four twenty-four. But I am not a scripture scholar so I don’t understand that much. What troubled me most of the movie was the portrayal of the children who took on the forms of Demons and the twisted faces that, in my opinion, where the depictions of Jewish people in medieval Europe. What I liked about the movie were the family scenes of Jesus and Mary the aspect of the original languages was a master stroke on Mr. Gibson’s part. Especially the scene where Jesus was building a table with chairs. I think the Resurrection morning ending was also masterful in my opinion.

    A side note and a bit pathetic on my part, I find Mr. Gibson’s remarks about women and people of the Jewish faith horrid and reprehensible but I did mention that in an email I sent to the only email address I could find for him. But I also spoke about praying for him and his family and mentioning some links as to where he might find help for his substance abuse issue and his issues with the Jewish faith / anti-Semitic views. I did not expect him to read it I just felt one should try. Again pathetic but well. Nice article Michael.

  46. Wow. Something is really wrong with Gibson. That interview must have felt like a very long nine minutes for Greg. Something is producing some major neurological issues.

  47. Im not a medical health professional of any type but I noticed the same thing, Mr. Gibson did discuss his long-term drinking issues this article does discuss some of those effects.

    http://www.healthline.com/health/alcohol-related-neurologic-disease

  48. I caught just a glimpse of this interview as it was being broadcast live in my Facebook feed. I glanced at it for a moment not knowing who in the world Greg was interviewing. My first guess was it was Chuck Girard, known best for founding the early CCM band “Love Song.” Then I just kept scrolling…

    And Josh is exactly right…Greg is looking more and more like Chuck Smith!

  49. So I watched the entire clip. Very interesting. Being originally from sunny So Cal it actually is right in line with the culture. It really is a different world in Orange County.

    As for Mel’s condition, this just seems like the natural progression in his mental/neurological condition.

    If there was one thing that I like about the clip, which was a bit uncomfortable to watch, was when MG said, “Real heroes don’t wear spandex.” Something I wish more people realized.

  50. Did anyone else find Mel Gibson’s behaviour a bit strange?? Does anyone know what was wrong with him? Why was he so jerky?

  51. K.

    He has something neurological going on. Since this is a religious context, there are some religious experiences that leave serious mental and neurological issues with those that engage in them. I have never heard Gibson’s name associated with those sort of practices. His movements and speak also do not seem to match my expected symptoms.

    Parkinson’s seems to be out. Again because of the type of movement.
    He is not stoned, or showing signs of intoxication.
    His weight is holding up, with excellent muscle mass.

    Long-term alcohol use would seem to be the logical issue.

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