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  1. Babylon’s Dread says:

    This will not stop with might power law or brutality but only with wisdom from heaven and grace to restore the hedges that have fallen down.

  2. Michael says:

    We are not yet at a point where we desire grace more than victory over our perceived enemies…

  3. filbertz says:

    I’ve treasured listening to my son Drew’s i-pod as it has given me a connection to his passion for music and insight into his heart and mind before he died. I listened to Johnny Cash’s “Man in Black” lyrics yesterday and found them more appropriate than ever.

  4. Michael says:

    fil,

    That song shaped a part of me when I was a kid…it still rings true.

  5. John 20:29 says:

    wonderful thinking that cannot really be commented on… too much to think on… too much
    this morning’s post is a blessing for me to read, thank you, Michael

  6. bob1 says:

    #5

    This book is worth looking at. The idea is that faith is better translated as fidelity or faithfulness.

    https://www.amazon.com/Salvation-Allegiance-Alone-Rethinking-Gospel/dp/0801097975/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

  7. Michael says:

    Thank you, Em! 😉

  8. Jean says:

    I think there’s a meta-worldview growing in America which sees America as a country or empire in decline. America is unable to impose its will around the world and other nations are rising in prosperity and influence.

    What this means for people who hold this view is that the “pie” is a set size or more probably shrinking. Therefore, people are fighting each other over the size of their respective pieces and even the crumbs. It is self-centeredness and fear on a growing scale.

    What this worldview produces is a mindset that is hostile to other peoples’ or groups’ progressing (or even getting a fair shake), because their gain is perceived as my loss. We are taking not only from each other, in the form of racial and/or economic injustice against working classes and minorities, but we are also taking from our children and grandchildren by running high budget deficits and now planning to add massively to the debt in the form of tax cuts.

    This mindset is angry and hostile because the pie and it’s crumbs are all these people have to fight over. It is anti-God, because the treasure God offers in Christ has no value to rejoice in. The future God offers in Christ has no value over what temporal present happiness we might purchase (at what cost?).

    No one, much less our elected officials, are offering any long term solutions to the disease that has afflicted our country. Most of what we as a nation are suffering is self-inflicted. But, we have suffered so much that we are ready to shake off our denial.

  9. Michael says:

    “The future God offers in Christ has no value over what temporal present happiness we might purchase (at what cost?).”

    There is the root…

  10. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    “The Protestant belief that we are not saved by obedience has led to an utter discounting of the place of obedience in the Christian walk…”

    Totally false – I don’t believe that we are saved by obedience (other than the command “come to me all you who are under heavy burden, and I will give you rest.”) – in fact it is blasphemous to think such. However, Christians (note to be a Christian is post salvation) there is a call to, what the Book of Concord calls A New Obedience.

    #5 is a terrible non Christian comment. (now I need to run over to the rule book to the right and see if I broke any rules with this comment.)

  11. Jean says:

    Correction to the last sentence of my #8: “But we have NOT suffered so much that we are ready to shake off our denial.”

  12. Michael says:

    MLD,

    I’m not arguing for salvation by works.
    I am arguing that much of the church is walking in anti- nomianism, declared or not.

  13. Duane Arnold says:

    Michael

    Thanks for including the lyrics… My bandmate Michael’s niece, Ashley, was at the concert in Vegas last night. She was unharmed, but considerably shaken up. These things hit closer to home than we sometimes think….

  14. Michael says:

    Duane,

    Thank you for allowing us to do so.

    I’ve spent much of the morning hoping that this doesn’t hit too close to my home…

  15. John 20:29 says:

    MLD has misinterpreted again at comment #10 – do Lutherans do that a lot? 🙂
    but i’ve said enough today…

  16. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    To Michael & Em – No, the comment said that the doctrine itself (a doctrine that is true) has caused the problem.
    ““The Protestant belief that we are not saved by obedience has led to…”

    It was not stated that people abuse a true doctrine to cause this issue – it says that the doctrine itself is to blame.

  17. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    Now, the RCC & EO would make that charge.

  18. Michael says:

    I will take responsibility for a poorly written point…now we can discuss what I meant…

  19. Xenia says:

    MLD, yes we would.

  20. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    “now we can discuss what I meant…”

    OK – so if you know anyone who says that or lives that way, tell them they are going to hell if they don’t straighten out.

  21. Duane Arnold says:

    If we are going to comment on what others believe, it is well to read what is actually taught. For the RCC –
    http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s1c3a2.htm
    Much, much close to what most of us believe than we might wish to think.

  22. Michael says:

    MLD,

    If that alone determines our eternal destiny, hell is going to be packed.

    The truth is that I’m constantly disobedient in thought, word, and deed, and worse, I don’t worry about it much because I’m saved by grace.

    Facebook and this blog alone could be enough to damn me…

    Obedience occupies a much higher place in the Scriptures than in our practice…

  23. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    Michael – again, that is not what you said in your comment – the 2nd part.
    “has led to an utter discounting of the place of obedience in the Christian walk…”

    There is a difference, at least in my mind of being disobedient and saying that there is no place for obedience in the Christian life.

    I believe in the New Obedience, the strict application of the 3rd use of the law – and at the same time am disobedient.

  24. Jean says:

    Everyone here, except MLD, to my knowledge, knows exactly what Michael meant in his original article.

    Keep digging friend.

  25. Michael says:

    Thank you, Jean.

    I’m often writing out of personal conviction believing that people here pretty much know my doctrinal stance…but I will seek to be more clear.

  26. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    I think Jean broke a rule by belittling my comment. Where is the respect? 😉

  27. dusty says:

    #10 flags, pretty powerful.

    Thanks for these thought today Michael

  28. dusty says:

    Filbertz, praying for you today.

  29. Michael says:

    Thank you, Dusty. 🙂

  30. Dan from Georgia says:

    Duane and Michael, my coworker’s wife’s cousin and his wife were at the concert last night in Vegas too. They survived thankfully. My coworker showed me a selfie they took before sundown, and in the background is the Mandalay hotel. It was a chilling photograph. They had to live by diving over a fence and under the stage.

    Yes, it impacts us all to some degree.

  31. Duane Arnold says:

    #27 Dusty

    Many thanks. I wrote the song “Flags” over a year ago. At the time, I told my friend Michael that there would be plenty of occasions in the future to share the song… I wish that I had been proven wrong, but, tragically, that has not been the case.

  32. Josh the Baptist says:

    Well done, Duane.

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