Links! Uncategorized Add comments Nov 112013 Scoundrels cutting back… Atheist mega churches… Thank you, pastors wife… Are some sins worse than others? Sexual abuse scandal could leave church leadership in jail… The top 250 Christian blogs…we made it in this morning. An interesting new site from Jason Stellman… How to help without hurting in the Philippines… Beautiful fear… Are Calvinists creating a new religious right? 10 quotes to rock your world… Are our smartphones killing us? How can we help the tormented among us to know they are not disposable? Excellent piece on leadership… The support missionaries really need… The punches ministers never see coming… Matt Redmond defends youth ministry… Mac answers the critics pt.2 Piper responds to Mac… Church bankruptcies… Free PDF book from Piper on the “five points of Calvinism”... Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window)Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window)Click to share on Google+ (Opens in new window)MoreClick to email this to a friend (Opens in new window)Click to print (Opens in new window)Like this:Like Loading... 67 Responses to “Links!” Solomon Rodriguez says: November 12, 2013 at 3:37 am Sin is sin amd anyone who thinks their sin is less than others have fallen into Pride babylonthegreatfallen says: November 12, 2013 at 6:54 am The some sins worse guy made a train wreck of Romans 1 which simply deduces that all who are in Adam are rebels and that when we hear the voice of the creature rather than the creator we are doomed to be given over to ALL KINDS of sin not to a worse sin than others. But I do agree that some sins are worse than others. Mass murderers are worse than people who exaggerate stories. Aren’t some things obvious? And as for the inevitable “in God’s sight” argument. Let me know when you get his sight. Michael says: November 12, 2013 at 7:52 am We just got added to the top 250…thanks for the correction, Jared. Bob Sweat says: November 12, 2013 at 8:21 am In answering the first question from Challies, JM said: “While paedobaptist and amillennial distinctives have been variously held by orthodox theologians throughout church history, charismatic theology has a much more sinister spiritual heritage: from the Montanists of the early church, to the Zwickau prophets and Münster radicals of the Reformation, to the Quakers, Shakers, Jansenists, and Irvingites of more recent church history.” Once again, he generalizes Friends Church doctrine. Sinister? While SOME early Quakers were so moved by the Spirit, a judge called them “Quakers”, and SOME chose further manifestations, the majority did not. I wonder if JM is aware that John Wimber was at one time a pastor in a Quaker Church but was removed due his charismatic beliefs? I was this same type of generalization, over another doctrine, back in 1985 that caused me to lose respect for JM. My associate pastor even mailed JM a copy of the doctrine of the Quaker Church seeking a retraction. Never received one. I’m sure JM must have forgotten back in 1965, went he was still working with his dad and had a gospel team that held evangelism services at churches. The Friends Church where I served had he and his team come for a weekend youth rally. Perhaps I should remind him that he stood behind the pulpit of a sinister church. Michael says: November 12, 2013 at 8:26 am Bob, Equating Quakers and the Munster radicals is enough to disqualify Mac on the subject. Very cool personal story about he and his dad at your church… Ixtlan says: November 12, 2013 at 8:31 am Congratulations Michael. Michael says: November 12, 2013 at 8:39 am Ixtlan, Thank you. We were ignored for so many years when we had an even a bigger readership that it does feel good to be noticed. The critics said we’d be gone by now…and that feels pretty good too. Steve Wright says: November 12, 2013 at 8:50 am Sin does three things. Separates us from God, Hurts us or others (or both), Results in judgment The question about greater sins needs to be asked in one of those contexts. Jesus Himself actually used the expression “greater sin” Jim says: November 12, 2013 at 8:50 am Happy to see that you were deemed sufficiently Christian to make the list. 🙂 To my shame, the last point in the missionary article somehow missed my radar. I need to add this to my to do list. Redmond is describing a youth ministry that I’ve never seen. Perhaps when my kids were teens, I was looking in the wrong places. Michael says: November 12, 2013 at 8:54 am Jim, I think Matt is getting a lot of feedback similar to yours… Xenia says: November 12, 2013 at 9:27 am The best thing about Matt Redmond’s article is that while he was excited when 20 people came the first night, he didn’t abandon ship when only 4 came the second night. How many people would have said “This isn’t working!” and would have decided to bring in a rapper or plan a trip to the local mall in their pajamas. Matt decided that young people were capable of a serious weekly meeting, not the infantile foolishness that passes for youth ministry in so many places. Good for him. I, personally, would not have spent two years discussing the Protestant theory of the atonement but the general idea of study-prayer-food-companionship is very good. Jason J. Stellman says: November 12, 2013 at 10:23 am Thanks for the shout-out! Michael says: November 12, 2013 at 10:26 am Jason, My pleasure…looking forward to your site “filling in”… Andrew says: November 12, 2013 at 10:27 am I think the Atheist mega church may actually catch on. If John MaCarthur is right, a large majority of churches now are filled with non believers anyhow. So we may already be there. Michael says: November 12, 2013 at 10:38 am The wheat and the tares have always grown up together…but being a charismatic does not make one a tare… Andrew says: November 12, 2013 at 10:44 am John MaCarthur never said being a charismatic makes one a tare. He has sad these remarks long before the strangefire conference. babylonthegreatfallen says: November 12, 2013 at 11:23 am See the interesting thing is that I think evangelicalism is filling the church with functional nonbelievers. People are taught to defend a Bible but not to encounter the God of the Bible. The God of the Bible talks, intervenes, intrudes, judges, blesses, heals and completely interacts with the people. The God we encounter is a Bible study with lessons of endurance and interpretation so we can survive the absence of God. MacArthur is the unbeliever. Jason J. Stellman says: November 12, 2013 at 11:33 am Michael, … looking forward to your site “filling in”…. Yeah, me too. And I’m pretty sure there’ll be some stuff we post that will be right up your alley. Kevin H says: November 12, 2013 at 11:52 am I appreciated Matt Redmond’s article. That being said, I am not one who will bash youth ministries who do silly things or do events that cater to the likes of teenagers. Yes, if the main focus or drive of a youth ministry is conducting entertaining events and activities, then there is a problem. However, if these type of silly things are supplementary to the main focus of bringing teenagers to Christ and discipling them as they grow in their faith and relationship with Christ, then I have no problem. I think there may even be some wisdom in doing the “silly”. Wasn’t it the apostle Paul that said something about becoming all things to all people so that some may be saved? If doing some silly stuff with teenagers helps you to forge a relationship with them, then go for it I say. Xenia says: November 12, 2013 at 11:55 am Jason, since we have your attention: I am curious as to why you chose the RC over the EO? Kevin H says: November 12, 2013 at 12:04 pm Just a quick clarification to my last comment. I’m not accusing Redmond of any bashing. While I think he made it clear that the way he was conducting youth ministry was certainly very low on the “silly scale” compared to many others, I also don’t think he was out to bash those who were different in their approach. Michael says: November 12, 2013 at 12:09 pm Xenia, That’s good question…maybe I’ll prod him a bit… 🙂 Jason J. Stellman says: November 12, 2013 at 12:32 pm Xenia, Because steeples are cooler than onion-domed cupolas? Something tells me I’m not getting off the hook that easily…. Rob Murphy says: November 12, 2013 at 12:38 pm Been dealing with some friends who in these hard times are refusing to work at jobs that are “beneath them” and I’m trying not to get stinky in my attitude towards these fellows. This was a good article, I thought http://cbmw.org/men/manhood/men-as-providers/ Xenia says: November 12, 2013 at 12:39 pm The main reason many people give for choosing the RC over the EO (apart from aesthetics) is the papacy, which they prefer to the jurisdictional chaos seen in the EO churches here in the US. They appreciate the papacy because they believe it’s representative of the premise that the RC is the One True Church and the EO are the rebellious break-aways, whereas the EO see it exactly opposite. There are some significant theological differences between the two Churches but I have seldom met a person who made the decision based on these differences. Michael says: November 12, 2013 at 12:40 pm JJS, I’ve wondered the same thing…enquiring minds want to know. Steve Wright says: November 12, 2013 at 12:43 pm I was not interested in an event-driven youth ministry but one that revolved around the teaching and prayer and relationships formed on a designated night each week. Yes, we would go to camp and have some events but the anchor would be a midweek Bible Study. I sold them on it but they were skeptical enough. ———————————————————— A loud Amen to Matt Redmond. Derek Thornton says: November 12, 2013 at 2:20 pm Michael, A question, if you will, on the last link to Piper’s book on “the five points”. I know in the past you have posted some stuff showing some differences in modern Calvinism and what Calvin actually believed. You got any resources to share in looking up those differences? Michael says: November 12, 2013 at 2:24 pm Derek, I’m not home right now, but I’ll post some sites tonight. Derek Thornton says: November 12, 2013 at 2:29 pm Thank you. Nonnie says: November 12, 2013 at 3:31 pm Baby’s, your number 17…..bravo! Nonnie says: November 12, 2013 at 3:32 pm Dang auto correct! That was suppose to be Babs, not Babys Michael says: November 12, 2013 at 4:06 pm Derek, This is one of my favorite sites on that topic. It is pretty academic, but it has a ton of great material. http://calvinandcalvinism.com Derek Thornton says: November 12, 2013 at 4:13 pm Thanks! I added it to my bookmarks. BrianD says: November 12, 2013 at 4:18 pm http://whoisrobdavis.wordpress.com/2013/11/07/the-real-acts-29/ BrianD says: November 12, 2013 at 4:19 pm and http://storify.com/RachelHeldEvans/this-is-what-patronization-looks-like Michael says: November 12, 2013 at 4:29 pm BrianD, Thank you…good to see you here! Michael says: November 12, 2013 at 4:29 pm I totally forgot that first link…and it is a good one. BrianD says: November 12, 2013 at 4:36 pm Good to visit, Michael! It’s supposed to be the first in a series, or said the author on FB. Derek Thornton says: November 12, 2013 at 4:46 pm In North Korea, possessing a bible is a capital crime it seems. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/11/12/north-korea-publicly-executes-80-for-crimes-like-watching-films-owning-bible/ Derek Thornton says: November 12, 2013 at 4:59 pm Awesome stuff in Iran! http://www.persecution.com/public/newsroom.aspx?story_ID=NjI1&featuredstory_ID=NDA1&clickfrom=ZmVhdHVyZWRzdG9yaWVz Derek Thornton says: November 12, 2013 at 5:02 pm And sobering stuff from Syria.. http://www.persecution.org/2013/11/12/reports-of-torture-from-christian-survivors-in-syria/ Supporting the rebels in Syria was one of the biggest foreign policy mistakes I know of. Ricky Bobby says: November 12, 2013 at 5:11 pm “I have no artistic ability and am not the least bit creative. If, however, you’re looking for logic or sarcasm, I’m your guy. I also cannot write my way out of a paper bag. I used to be a depressed malcontent waiting for my tragedy of a life to end, but then I gave up religion, got divorced, and started making money. Fortunately, I’m shallow enough for that to turn me into a happy person. To be honest, I’m not sure what I’m doing here other than Jason knows I’d give him shit if he didn’t include me, so he has chosen the path of least resistance. . . again.” That is some funny s***t LOL. Well done. The others were pretty predictable. Jason J. Stellman says: November 12, 2013 at 9:20 pm Ricky Bobby, Yeah, that one made me laugh as well. But read Sky’s and Justin’s, there’s nothing predictable about those! http://heavyforthevintage.com/misfits-malcontents/ local nobody says: November 12, 2013 at 9:24 pm The sour grapes of wrath. Ricky Bobby says: November 12, 2013 at 9:35 pm JJS, not hating, I just read all sorts of stuff and love originality. I’ve read similar to those many times. It’s not authentic, not like Kingery’s. The others are like hipsters in skinny jeans drinking a Starbucks from a wine glass. Kingery’s is like a homeless man in West Hollywood sporting a skin tight blue jumpsuit with a banana down his pants…while he sucks on a bottle of Grey Goose he just scored after beating up a wealthy transvestite in front of the liquor store. Jason J. Stellman says: November 12, 2013 at 9:50 pm Actually, Sky is an actual homeless man in Orange County…. Jim says: November 12, 2013 at 10:07 pm Change a couple of names in Brian D’s link and you have SGM. Ricky Bobby says: November 12, 2013 at 10:18 pm Cool, then I send him a blue jumpsuit…and a banana. 🙂 Ricky Bobby says: November 12, 2013 at 10:35 pm ..and I’m assuming you are kidding about Sky. Jason J. Stellman says: November 12, 2013 at 11:33 pm No, he’s living on the streets right now for reals. Jason J. Stellman says: November 12, 2013 at 11:38 pm But there’s always money in the banana stand. Ricky Bobby says: November 13, 2013 at 8:29 am Why is he living on the streets? Is he on drugs? Has he applied for all the Govt. assistance that is available? Food Stamps? 0bamaphone? Rental Assistance? Medicaid? Home Energy Assistance (they help pay your energy bills)? Earned Income Credit? Disability Benefits? Unemployment? I thought 0bama fixed all that “poor” and “homeless” nonsense. Your friend needs to get off his arse and fill out some forms or something, seriously. California or Washington and the Fed’s have a ton of free money available. It’s hard to be homeless (unless you are on drugs, have mental issues or are stuck w/o the ability to get the benefits b/c you have a jerk Calvary Chapel husband situation that keeps you from qualifying for some of the benefits like a friend who posts here faces). Your buddy, as a single male (I’m assuming from the pic) should qualify for a ton of loot…and there are Rescue Missions and Food Banks and all sorts of private-sector charities as well. http://www.usa.gov/Citizen/Topics/Benefits.shtml Ricky Bobby says: November 13, 2013 at 8:36 am This link explains the rights of the homeless and expresses the fact they have more rights under the SNAP/Food Assistance program and shows how they can get the help. http://frac.org/federal-foodnutrition-programs/snapfood-stamps/homeless-persons-rights-under-the-snapsnapfood-stamp-program/ Ricky Bobby says: November 13, 2013 at 8:38 am If your buddy is truly homeless, he probably has some sort of disability (mental disorder and/or physical issue). Disability is a pretty low bar these days. Here’s a link that shows homeless dudes how to get disability money: http://www.cdss.ca.gov/cdssweb/PG2266.htm Ricky Bobby says: November 13, 2013 at 8:39 am What other special help can homeless people receive? Duty to extend special help to the homeless: Food stamp offices must have special procedures that serve homeless people (as well as the elderly and disabled, for that matter). [7 C.F.R. § 273.2(a); MPP § 63-601.11.] The food stamp office must help get the food stamps to the recipient each month. [7 C.F.R. § 274.2(a); MPP §63-601.11.] While this is less of a problem with the emergence of the Electronic Benefit Transfer system for distributing food stamp benefits, counties still must help recipients get their EBT card. For example, the food stamp office may help the recipient by finding him or her an authorized representative, or by mailing the EBT card to a shelter, or by allowing the recipient to pick up the EBT card at the office, or by using “any other appropriate means”. [7 C.F.R. § 274.2(a); MPP §63-601.11.] Outreach to the homeless: State food stamp agencies can get federal money to do outreach to homeless people to help them get on food stamps. [7 C.F.R. § 272.5(c).] California has adopted a homeless outreach program. [Welf. & Inst. Code § 18904.2 et. seq..] The law requires that the state agency develop materials on expedited service (emergency food stamps) for the homeless, and give the materials and the shortened application to homeless shelters for use with their clients. [Welf.& Inst. Code § 18904.25.] The law also requires local county welfare departments to offer annual food stamp training to homeless shelter staff. [Welf. & Inst. Code § 18904.25(b).] Ricky Bobby says: November 13, 2013 at 8:44 am Here is who your buddy needs to contact for help. Our Government/Big Brother has a specific Agent in his area (I’m assuming the OC) who will help him…and this is just the Gubmint options, then your buddy can leverage the many resources available through “the church”. http://www.hudhre.info/index.cfm?do=actionCocContactsSearch&st=CA&optThree=CA-602&all=y#poc Poverty sucks, homelessness sucks, no doubt. Sometimes, however, I think folks simply don’t leverage the huge safety-nets we already have in our System (not commenting Philosophically on the right or wrong of such a huge Socialist safety-net, just pointing out that it exists and that it’s really hard to starve to death in the United States of ‘Merica). babylonthegreatfallen says: November 13, 2013 at 1:44 pm Is it just me or is there an ongoing overstating of casualty numbers in major disaster areas. I have read 10,000 times about the 10,000 dead in the Philippines. Then I look for official tallies and find a fraction of the number. Is this intentional and is this helpful? Josh the Baptist says: November 13, 2013 at 1:58 pm Dread, apparently there have only been 600 or so confirmed, but they estimate up to 10,000 being dead. The countries systems aren’t stellar anyway, and then to have been devastated by the storm makes it even harder for them to get exact numbers. babylonthegreatfallen says: November 13, 2013 at 2:10 pm I do not think the 10,000 number has anything to do with estimates or with problems counting and communicating. I acknowledge those things exist. I think the number is a report from a hurting person who said something like, “Oh no, this thing probably killed ten thousand people in our province alone.” Then it suddenly becomes newswire fodder. I think it has no basis in truth whatsoever. There was a huge controversy over how many died in Haiti in the earthquake. The official numbers being half or a third. This is not to minimize the horror or to diminish aid. Just something that I keep noticing. babylonthegreatfallen says: November 13, 2013 at 2:12 pm The same things happened in Katrina passing throgh says: November 13, 2013 at 2:31 pm Got to love this Pope. http://img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/full/2013/11/07/426976.jpg Derek Thornton says: November 13, 2013 at 4:09 pm ESV Study Bible Web App free until the end of November. http://www.crossway.org/blog/2013/11/a-free-gift-to-celebrate-crossways-75th-anniversary/ Derek Thornton says: November 14, 2013 at 3:56 pm A little something to make the blood boil. http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tgc/2013/11/14/barton-and-copeland-the-bible-says-soldiers-should-not-suffer-from-ptsd/ Derek Thornton says: November 14, 2013 at 4:24 pm Found this article interesting also. http://thefrontporch.org/2013/11/what-i-love-about-the-people-in-prosperity-gospel-churches/ babylonthegreatfallen says: November 14, 2013 at 6:05 pm Derek… thanks for the link to that ESV App And YES treating soldiers that way is evil Derek Thornton says: November 14, 2013 at 6:27 pm I have found the app pretty useful. Those two numb skulls have no idea what they are saying and haven’t ever had to deal with war or PTSD. Leave a Reply Cancel reply Your Comment You may use these HTML tags and attributes: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <s> <strike> <strong> Name (required) E-mail (required) URI Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Notify me of new posts by email.