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  1. Jean says:

    Jesus says without him we can do nothing.

    On that basis, this teaching also provides the structure for a perpetual prayer of the Church that according to His abundant mercies and steadfast love we beseech our creator Father to preserve the Church and all Christians under the protective wing of His Son, our Lord, and in His powerful Word.

    Do not let the Word depart from our lips, nor the Spirit from our hearts for the sake of your name O Lord.

  2. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    Jean, when we get to chapters 7&8 we will the ongoing praise and worship of the church with their continual prayer – and the power of that prayer.

  3. Jean says:

    I’m looking forward to it. Keep up the good work.

  4. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    Because of Jesus’ continual hard words against false teachers, false teaching and those who will not confront or repent of such, evidenced by Jesus’ threat in v. 16 – I think it is important to add that Christians should take notice of Christ’s strong warnings against allowing false teachings into their midst. During His earthly ministry, He warned His disciples to be on guard against the yeast of the Pharisees and to watch out for false prophets (Matt.16 and 24). St. Paul speaks on behalf of Christ warning the churches in Corinth and Galatia to steer clear of false teachings for a little yeast ruins the whole batch (1 Cor 5:6 and Gal. 5:9).
    We should take note of this especially today when false teachers and their false teachings run rampant in the church. We are to steer clear of them and cling to what is in accord with sound doctrine.

  5. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    I think Tim Challies does a good job in this short video (10 min) identifying what and who we are up against.

  6. Michael says:

    The problem comes when we try to identify false teachers in real life.
    Your confession says that anyone outside your communion is a false teacher.
    Challies wouldn’t be much more generous.

    Without a baseline standard,this issue becomes completely subjective.

    We know little about the Nicolatians, though I suspect that your description is probably pretty close in context.

    The thing that stands out to me in these letters isn’t the emphasis on false teachers (though it is there) it;s the promise of suffering.

    The falsest teaching of all is to teach Christians they will avoid it…

  7. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    You know Michael, the reason I put the emphasis where I do is because of the emphasis Jesus places not just on the false teaching / teacher, but the tremendous threat of a church that will not call the offenders to repentance.
    As I pointed out, Jesus says he will come against and war against his church.
    Twiddling our thumbs and saying recognizing false teaching is too subjective, just may not be helpful.

  8. Michael says:

    The problem doesn’t go away because it’s difficult.
    According to your confession I am a false teacher, as is every orthodox teacher outside the LCMS.
    I think that is a steaming crock of “stuff”.
    Nowhere in these letters do we find doctrinal disagreements of the sort we wrangle over as defining false teachers.
    In our passage today the warning seems to be against idolatry (which you rightly note leads to other sins) and compromise with the culture and paganism.

    “2:13 Pergamum hosted temples dedicated to “the divine Augustus and the goddess Roma” and to Asklepios (the god of healing, symbolized by serpents), and a large altar dedicated to Zeus. The worship of the emperor as a god was also strongly emphasized, even required, in the province of Asia, and it was a major problem for Christians at the time.”

    The ESV Study Bible, Accordance electronic ed. (Wheaton: Crossway Bibles, 2008), paragraph 24998.

    I would also suggest that the sin mentioned here was at least in part a melding of church and state…and well, make your own application…

  9. Michael says:

    Jesus does not say He will war against His church…

    “In keeping with the warning in the first letter (to Ephesus), but not found in the second (to Smyrna), the risen Christ calls on the church in Pergamum to repent therefore, which is the only hope for survival that the church would have had. But whereas the former threat was the removal of “your lampstand from its place”—severe punishment indeed!—in this second instance failure to repent means that otherwise, I will come to you and will fight against them.

    Here in particular one should note the change in pronouns, from “you” to “them.” This is not a battle against the whole church, although they are indeed to repent for letting this false teaching exist among them, but warfare carried on specifically “against them,” the purveyors of and adherents to this false teaching. The means by which the risen Christ will do battle against them is with the sword of my mouth, thus indicating that the sword in the original picture (1:16) is intended for battle, not simply for defense. All of this is imagery, of course, but it is difficult to escape its very strong implications, that Christ intends to purify his church and will personally do battle against those who would pervert his pure gospel into something else.

    Fee, G. D. (2011). Revelation (pp. 35–36). Eugene, OR: Cascade Books.

  10. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    Forget the LCMS – I never brought them up in my article(s) – some people bring in the LCMS to use as a whipping boy.
    I will offer up a false teacher to you – Kenneth Copeland or Benny Hinn.
    Now you can tell me if you think they are false teachers or not and then tell me the baseline you use so that you are not being subjective – or are they just examples of modern day wranglings?
    (if you want to say they are not false teachers, I will not argue back)

  11. Michael says:

    I abhor Copeland’s teachings and believe him to be a false teacher and possibly demon possessed.
    However, my assessment of Copeland is subjective as it isn’t based on an agreed upon standard.
    He claims the Bible as his standard, too.
    I don’t know enough about his theology to know if he has violated the creeds…he certainly violates my religious sensibilities.

  12. Michael says:

    Benny Hinn is a Trinitarian heretic so that one is easy…

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