Dec 232017

Revelation 1:7-11

Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him, and all tribes of the earth will wail on account of him. Even so. Amen.

  • We spoke earlier of the kingdom that is already here – now we have language of the kingdom to come.
  • He has come when? At his birth and he was reigning even from then. Jesus’ first sermon in Mark is “My kingdom is at hand.” Mark 1:15
  • And this will be climaxed at Calvary – and one day we will see him with our eyes – but today we do not see him, but we hear him with our ears in his word…
  • Jesus is not absent – just hidden. Today he is hidden in the bread & the wine.
  • On the last day we will again see his reign.
  • Matthew 24 uses this same thought of everyone will see Jesus.
  • Every eye will see him – is this law or gospel? It depends solely if you are a believer or not.
  • Every knee will bow – whether you believe or not. For the believer, the knee will bow in honor.
  • For the one who has spent their whole life saying ‘no’, saying this Jesus stuff is a bunch of bull, on this day it will be too late – once Judgment Day has come – too late, game over (the law enacted.)
  • And what about the “coming with the clouds”? This is the glory cloud, the one that came down and enveloped the temple (1Kings 8) – the same one that took Jesus up to the right hand of the Father.

“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

  • Now Jesus speaks – Alpha = 1st letter of the Greek alphabet and Omega the last. What is it we say today? “From A to Z”
  • You can stretch this to be no beginning, no end.
  • Look back at v 4 – the same language as the Father – Jesus claims to be God Almighty.
  • These past several verses are Trinity language verses. Do a follow up on your own – Read and meditate on the Athanasian Creed.

Vision of the Son of Man

I, John, your brother and partner in the tribulation and the kingdom and the patient endurance that are in Jesus, was on the island called Patmos on account of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus.

  • There is no question that the author’s name is John. If there is any question it would be which John. I say surely the author of the gospel – the apostle.
  • John is in a prison – much like Alcatraz. ‘Welcome to the Rock!’
  • Jesus is not part of a pantheon of gods – but he is God alone – the only way to salvation and this kind of talk in John’s age, and even in our age, will bring you grief – like beatings, prison and perhaps execution.
  • Bonheoffer said ‘if you are a Christian, be prepared to die.’
  • John apparently was not a PC kind of guy. He did not bow to the culture and he did not soften the gospel to gain the seekers into his church.
  • In his gospel, he is the apostle of love – but how does love manifest itself in your witness? Look what love got John.
  • By the testimony of Jesus – it is like giving testimony in court – You swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God.
  • The fight for the Christian today is to not proclaim culture as king. In the 1st century it was to not proclaim the emperor as god. In the OT, although Pharaoh claimed to be god on earth, the Israelites could not proclaim this.
  • How well do you hold up?
  • So many times we can be swayed by attraction. The attraction of the religion of Oprah, Shirley McLain, the Beatles.
  • The attraction of the times – Hinduism – the spark of the divine can be yours in you.

10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day, and I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet

  • In the Spirit = John will now see all of this from God’s perspective – not man’s – not by what is happening in the newspapers.
  • On the Lord’s day = Sunday, the 8th day of the week – the day of our Lord’s resurrection – the day of the new creation – this is the everlasting day.
  • Even though he is in prison, the Lord’s day is John’s reminder of the resurrected Christ (and it should be ours also as we assemble each week.)
  • The 8th day = new life – The resurrection = new life.
  • The voice like a trumpet = who is this preaching for? The Church.
  • The Lord’s Day = worship – Voice like a trumpet = the sermon – God’s word is being declared.

11 saying, “Write what you see in a book and send it to the seven churches, to Ephesus and to Smyrna and to Pergamum and to Thyatira and to Sardis and to Philadelphia and to Laodicea.”

  • The “in the Spirit” has brought John to this point – he is receiving and is assigned as a prophet to foretell what is and what is to be.
  • He is to write it down and pass it around.
  • To the 7 churches – a literal 7 churches or all churches?
  • 7 = completeness. This is for every church of every time… and to 7 individual church bodies.



  21 Responses to “The Weekend Word: Revelation 1:7-11”

  1. Is it possible to see judgement day as the day of making things right rather than payback? When the knee bows (after seeing Him face to face) will God not be satisfied? Hebrews: 9. 27. Inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once, and after this, judgment, – Bible Offline
    Does your doctrine allow that God will permit those who fall short to experience eternal torment after death, but not repentance? Justice could be making things right in the sense of bringing full understanding of failure and repentance in my opinion.

  2. Richard,

    I like the way you think…

  3. Is God not present only in the bread and wine,but in the church itself?

    “Where two or more are gathered”…

    This is a fine study, MLD…

  4. Richard, but what of those who continually deny, rebel and lead others astray?
    Lazarus and the rich man sees to oppose you total reconciliation position.

  5. Thank you Michael.
    I couldn’t say all the ways Jesus might be present, but my point was he hides himself – in this case in the bread and wine.

  6. MLD,


    I would expect that from a Lutheran and as an Anglican I can say the amen and add the church… 🙂

  7. I went back and looked at the incident with Lazarus, the rich man and Abraham and it seems at this point that the rich man fully understands who all the players are, what the gospel message is and what his plight is.
    He wants the gospel preached to his sons so they will not experience his torment and doom. The rich man understands that the law has been enacted on him.
    If we turn to universalism, then the law has not ever been acted on. I think the rich man will bend his knee and and accept the punishment from a just God.

  8. Richard and Michael, rest easy and trust in God’s perfection – He isn’t on the Throne of heaven simply because He’s tougher than all the rest 😊
    Who will be assigned to perdition is God’s to decide… Our job is to make sure that everyone knows that for the human race, it is appointed once to die (physical death)and after that? Judgement. No do overs, no someone stole my Bible or any other land excuse we might try…
    Our blessed, very blessed, assurance is that God is perfect and that includes His justice – there will not be one single human being judged unfairly – not my precious children, not my grouchy neighbor, not even the Herods or Pilate…
    I came late to appreciate how rich and reassuring the attributes of God are… I don’t think the devil wants them taught to us, but for the life of me I don’t understand why they are not taught with great emphasis and focus to us pew sitters – we’re saturated in teachings on grace, we gratefully grovel as forgiven sinners, but oh how it would help to understand more clearly how perfect is the holiness of God … Or so it seems to me… It was that for me

  9. Not “land” excuses… lame ones, you stupid tablet! I corrected you once. 😐

  10. I think it’s possible to reject the grace of God in Christ. But, I think Jesus is more merciful than many Christians imagine. In other words, I think rejecting Christ takes a lot more effort than many people think.

  11. Nice post MLD!

    Here are a few of my thoughts:

    10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day.
    John receives the vision during the Sunday Service.

    #1 Richard. Does the teaching you indicate offer a second chance to someone who died in unbelief? If so, when would sin be no more? I have the same question as MLD in #4. I hold that repentance and faith in Jesus are available up to the death of the body. Then I am sealed. The judgment of Hebrews 9:27 is on the basis of my faith in Jesus received before my death. Those with faith in Jesus will remain with Jesus. Those without faith in Jesus have what is recorded in Revelation 21:8 etc. I think this is MLD’s Lazarus position mention in #4 and #7.

  12. MLD I think ultimately the Creator will sort out who inherits eternal life. Based on my understanding of His nature the justice we see will be placing blame where it should be and compensating for abuses suffered. When I understand the impact of my sin on others fully, as I believe we all will, I will understand the depth of my sin and the magnitude of the Grace. God will sort out what was from bad parenting or bad discipleship. Some might be so hard that they still refuse to acknowledge that grace. I see a judgement that takes all influences into account. Abraham will have offspring as numerous as the sand of the seashore, as the stars of the cosmos.
    The point of the Lazarus parable was about how people come to faith not eternal destination.

  13. You die and then you are judged. It seems to me that you have to be “alive” to face the judge. This Judge is not willing that any should die and takes no pleasure in the suffering of the wicked.

  14. Richard – I hope we don’t go too far afield here as this is only a small portion of this passage today but…
    1.) I agree that God will sort it all out and he has told us how – even so with the Rich Man’s sons, they must come in the prescribed manner or face the doom of their pops.
    2.) God may take no pleasure in the suffering of the wicked, just as I took no pleasure in the suffering of my kids when I disciplined them — but I still did it.
    3.) Who gets judged? I say that the saved have already been judged at their baptism – John 5 says “Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.”

    But the passage – and remember this is the same John who wrote Revelation. is followed by “Truly, truly, I say to you, an hour is coming, and is now here, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live.”
    Somewhere else it speaks – and I think it is John – about Jesus’ sheep hear his voice – which I assume projects out to there are some who do not hear his voice who are not his.

  15. Jeffrey – thanks
    I think you are right about John and the Sunday Service.

  16. One really doesn’t look very nice telling another human that eternity is a reality, a two destination reality: heaven and hell. “Just who do you think you are telling me that? You’re a grouch, impatient and I’ve caught you in a lie or two! You’re no better than me!”
    The thing is, it is true.

    If one is exposed to the Word, the Truth and doesn’t take it seriously, I don’t think that God makes allowances for disrespect – some of the nicest, kindest, most likeable people in my memory have taken the stand, “if God wants me, he knows where he can find me…”. I pray and I sorrow for them. ..

    Some real stinkers , on the other hand, do worship the One true God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit… kind of makes me hope there’s a purgatory (don’t think there is)

    Those people who have come and gone with no revelation of God… is there such a condition? Only God knows…. God’s justice is righteous and is, therefore perfectly fair – repeating myself… We can trust Him

    Pontificating all done. 😀. God keep

  17. He’ll be comin’ in the clouds when He comes…….
    He’ll be ridin’ on a white horse when He comes…….
    And we’ll be caught up to meet Him when He comes…….
    He’ll kill the ‘ol red devil when He comes…….
    And we’ll all have brand new bodies when He comes…….
    Yes He’s comin’ in the clouds when He comes…….

    Verses from the kids ministry version that I wrote some time ago, sung to the tune of “She’ll be Coming ‘Round the Mountain”; which is reportedly derived from an obscure Christian song “When the Chariot Comes”.
    Not meant to be a serious doctrinal statement (before someone jumps all over me), but a fun (really fun) Sunday School hoot. 🙂

  18. And everyone shall see Him when comes
    And he’ll be bringing grandpa with Him
    When He comes
    Yes and He’ll be bringing grandma also
    When He comes
    And theyll all be riding horses with Him
    When He comes….
    And we’ll alll bow down to meet Him
    When He comes
    And Michael’s got Miss Kitty
    When He comes
    With Chester running after
    When they come

    Sorry, JD – but it is a fun song

    Merry. Christmas to all while we’re waiting
    for Him to come. 🎅

  19. MLD We can disagree. One of us might be right or we could both be wrong. Just consider the John 5 verse through my lens.

  20. A cyber hootenanny and a Merry Christmas to all! Found it here:

    O, who will drive the chariot
    When she comes?
    O, who will drive the chariot
    When she comes?
    O, who will drive the chariot,
    O, who will drive the chariot,
    O, who will drive the chariot
    When she comes?

    King Jesus, he’ll be driver when she comes,
    When she comes . . . .

    She’ll be loaded with bright Angels
    When she comes . . . .

    She will neither rock nor totter,
    When she comes . . . .

    She will run so level and steady,
    When she comes . . . .

    She will take us to the portals,
    When she comes . . . .

  21. Richard – to your comment @ #1 – “Is it possible to see judgement day as the day of making things right rather than payback?”

    Payback is a loaded word, but is it possible that what you call ‘payback’ is in actuality ‘making all things right?’
    When Jesus speaks, are the soils hypothetical? Are the tares or the goats just hypothetical? Is there an actual difference between Wheat / Tares or Sheep / Goats?

    I see Jesus making pretty definite claims about who he is and the consequence of not believing his testimony
    John Three 31-36 — John Eight 13-18 — John Fourteen 6

    This takes on great importance as we listen to Jesus speak to his post Pentecost church (not the general public, not the uninformed – but his church) in the next two chapters in Revelation – and the impact of false teaching coming into the church.

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