What To Do With Ravi

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  1. The pattern your document in certainly accurate. No question. However, IMHO, of the Christian celebrities I can think of that seem to have the potential and humility to do the right thing, Ravi is on that short list.

  2. Josh the Baptist says:

    The sex case against him looks very fishy.

    I’m sure he’s been inflating his academic credentials though. Unfortunately, that is a church staple.

  3. Michael says:

    Josh,

    It’s my understanding that it was an online affair and explicit pictures were sent.

    In any case, it’s something that was wrong.

    We’ll see what the reaction will be…I don’t share Corby’s confidence.

  4. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    I am confused why this is even an issue here. Just the other day on Things I Think was this;

    “8. All these scandals should serve to remind us of our own depravity…but it’s more fun to deal with the depravity of others… ”

    Are we delighting in the 2nd phrase of that thought?

  5. Josh the Baptist says:

    If you read the court documents, his defense looks very believable. He claims the couple tried to entrap and blackmail him.

  6. Josh the Baptist says:

    Should also say, I’ve never read or listened to Ravi, only that his lawsuit looked legit.

  7. Michael says:

    MLD,

    The same thing is at stake here that is always at stake.

    The refusal to openly repent.

    If we keep taking the fundamental mechanism for forgiveness off the table, how can we claim to be Christian?

  8. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    But aren’t you (the plural ya’ll) actually focusing on Ravi’s sin INSTEAD of his sin making you mourn over your own — which I took as the premise of your Things I Think.

  9. Michael says:

    MLD,

    What I’m focusing on here at home and here online are two different things.

    Both are doable at the same time.

    I’m helping raise a teenager…my sins are ever before me. 🙂

  10. Josh the Baptist says:

    That’s a biased report. Read the two documents linked at the bottom. Ravi claims they came after him to extort money, and that seems quite likely, considering their letter saying that he could either inform his board, or pay them $5 million.

  11. Michael says:

    I don’t think it’s biased at all.

    I will say that the couple is real close to the extortion line…but they obviously had the documentation needed to extort.

  12. Josh the Baptist says:

    Man, that’s a rough way to judge right and wrong. They extorted him, so they must have had something on him? Wow.

  13. Michael says:

    Josh,

    We’ve now seen the emails that confirm the online affair.

    Julie Anne published them.

    That doesn’t mean extortion is right or that Zacharias is innocent.
    It just means that there is enough wrong to go around.

  14. Josh the Baptist says:

    Michael, that is a very edited communication, that even then doesn’t admit to an online affair.

    It gives the woman story, which seems very suspicious, but nor Ravi’s.

  15. Michael says:

    Josh,

    Are you saying you think there’s a rational explanation for his email to do himself in if the husband were told?

  16. Josh the Baptist says:

    No, assuming that is true. That is incomplete communication. Who knows what has been edited.

  17. Steve says:

    I believe the victim and believe Ravi has been caught. He should step down and confess if this is indeed true. If not true, he should fight to clear his name. With that said, there is another sin here that is not being talked about and that is one of gossip. The gossip may be true but its still gossip. There something that makes me feel very uneasy that private email communications are being exposed to the world that were never meant for us to read. In my own depravity I seem to enjoy reading this but is it right? I seem to enjoy this stuff being exposed. Forgive me for that Ravi.

  18. John 20:29 says:

    Always we need to separate the man from the message and the Church doesn’t seem to be any better at doing that than is the rest of the world… or so it seems to me

  19. John 20:29 says:

    ML D makes a good observation – IMO today – it does look a little strange to see a whole flock pointing their fingers at the messenger for doing what we let slide by in the flock, itself … not excusing wrong behavior in leadership, just pondering our selectivity

  20. Michael @ 3 – I didn’t say I was confident, I just said I thought he had more potential than the average person we’ve seen in these situations. I’m not saying I believe he will. I’m saying on a scale of “likely to” he’s on the higher end.

  21. Jean says:

    I think what wears many Christians out is the dissonance created by all these evangelical theologians of glory. Week after week, book after book, they preach sanctification and victorious Christian living (it’s well represented even here), but while they line their pockets, even they can’t produce their sanctification.

    When are their followers going to say enough is enough, not only to them but to their theology.

    Let the one who thinks he stands take heed….

  22. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    em, I don’t think that was my point.

  23. John 20:29 says:

    No, MLD… I wasn’t restating your point… should have been more clear that your observation led me to thinking – it occurs to me that our fallen-so-called leaders distract us from our own business of personal accountability … we make it so easy for the devil to distract us… or so it seems to me … dunno, tho, do i? 😁

  24. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    To Jean’s point @22 – the worst book of the 20th century for evangelicals – and the one they liked the most was Alan Redpath’s Victorious Christian Living —- as if there is such a thing outside of daily repentance.

  25. If repentance and confession will cost a business millions of dollars will there be confession and repentance? Why does Ravi need DeMoss PR and the lawyers if he has his heart and his Lord?

  26. Eric says:

    It’s only been in the last week there has been a lot of talk about his misrepresentation of academic accomplishments, even though it has been happening for years. And now this other news. What is the connection between them, that they both come up around the same time?

  27. Captain Kevin says:

    Eric, I was wondering the same?

  28. Julie Anne says:

    The reason all of this is coming up now is the lawsuit. Steve Baughman publicized the lawsuit and the falsified academic credentials. I happened to have been sitting on the “June” story (I’ve known about it since Jan. 2017) and as the lawsuit became more focus, I started releasing more info on what I know. There’s so much more.

  29. Please view the Ministry Watch report on Ravi Zacharias.

    https://www.ministrywatch.com/articles/rzim.php

    not pretty.

    Ravi has not denied the suicide emails, which are visible still at http://www.RaviWatch.com.Nor had he addressed the 40 years of false credentials.

    see also my article “The Christian Industrial Complex shields its own” with extensive footnotes from Cambridge and Oxford.

    Mr. Zachrias failed in his December 3 press release to address the issues. He needs to come clean.

    Please contact him at pr@rzim.com to demand that he step up to the plate.

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